#the satan pit

[billpottsismygf]

Doctor Who: The Impossible Planet & The Satan Pit / The Legend of Ruby Sunday

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Even if you cannot hear my voice, I’ll be right beside you, dear

The Impossible Planet | Doctor Who

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BTS Of "The Impossible Planet // The Satan Pit"

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Doctor Who: 1x08 The Satan Pit (2006) / 60th anniversary special 2/3 Wild Blue Yonder (2023)

I frankly love that parallel. One scene taken out of each of the two RTD eras.

First there's the colour palettes. You can see that they're polar opposites. RTD era1 was warm all the time as talked about in this post (which I love dearly, I keep referencing it in my posts), and then we have RTD era2, which has a more modern-looking, colder palette for science fiction.

But it's also a directing choice for the mood I think, cause on the one hand, we have Rose who, we all know, would even give up on seeing her mum again if it meant she got to spend the rest of her life with the Doctor (quite like Donna back in series 4 actually, who was very prompt to say she was going to travel with Ten forever). On the other hand we have Donna in 2023 who's now got a daughter and a husband and who hadn't even planned on doing a trip with the Doctor in the first place, let alone at the edge of the universe. I mean, they were just supposed to go see Wilfred! On one side we have Ten who's slowly recovering from the trauma of the Time War and falling in love for the first time in a while and re-learning that he deserves to be loved, too. On the other side we have Fourteen who, just as Donna put it, is "staggering", and as Fifteen said, is "running on fumes". He's got FOUR regenerations worth of trauma on Ten who was already struggling as it was with one (since the Time War I mean. Maybe two if we count Nine, cause who knows what he's been through between his regeneration and meeting Rose). Fourteen went through losing Rose, Donna, Amy, Rory, River, Clara, Bill, and he went through Pandorica, billions of years imprisoned by the Time Lords in his own personal hell, finding out about the Timeless Child, etc... and now, on top of everything, he's got to deal face to face with the guilt of what he did to Donna as she's been given back to him. Anyway, it's dark, when you think about it. No wonder the colours are so much colder in Wild Blue Yonder.

Then there's the music. In The Satan Pit, the soundtrack, The Impossible Planet, has a mystical quality to it. It's slightly creepy (I mean, it IS an episode about Satan), but it's mostly mysterious. Ten and Rose are only 500 years away from home. But in Wild Blue Yonder, Fourteen and Donna are 100 TRILLION YEARS away from home. The soundtrack from that scene, The Edge of Creation, isn't just mysterious, it's eerie and ethereal and perfectly encompasses what it would feel like to stand somewhere so impossibly alien it has become supernatural (if you can't tell I am obsessed with that track and episode lmao).

I love the contrast between Rose and Donna and the questions they ask. Rose's question is cute, she's like "I've seen it in films, is that it?", it stems from a place of curiosity, like she doesn't really realize the deep shit that they're in. She's just a kid. Whereas Donna's question, it stems from a place of dread: "Where's the light?". It almost has a "The Licked Hand" quality to it (if you don't know that story: the girl is scared, she puts her hand under the bed, her dog licks it. She goes into the bathroom, finds her dog dead in the tub, and written in its blood are the words 'humans can lick too').

Then, finally, there's the order in which things have been done: in The Satan Pit, Rose remarks they're "a long way from home". Ten takes a long look at her, and seeing that she seems a bit scared, he explains to her how long it would take to get home. In Wild Blue Yonder, Fourteen first explains to Donna how long it would take to get home, and only THEN, he takes a long look at her, and finally Donna says "that's my family, over there". It parallels Rose's sentence in the sense that they both talk about home and how far away it is, but they use different words for it with a different meaning behind. Donna is more specific on what she'll be returning to when it's over (her family), whereas Rose, who isn't as grounded as her, just says "home" (which, for her, probably just means the place she grew up). I also love the contrast between Rose's "a long way" and Donna's "over there". The first implies foreign, the second implies close enough to see. What's interesting about this bit is Donna is further away from home than Rose is, geographically speaking. But for Rose, Home is actually the Doctor, just him, so she has no problem saying she's "a long way from home" since she doesn't mean it in the same way Donna would. So for Donna, when she says "over there", it's because the Home she's talking about is closer to her heart, and she's probably trying to reassure herself that she'll see her family again (I used to do something like that when I was in primary school, I'd travel all the way back to my house in my head to kiss my parents on the cheek because I was so homesick).

So that's that I guess

[helpmeimblorboing]

Love Series Two of NuWho because the antagonists of each episode go like this :

Skinsheet trans woman and furry nuns, Victorian werewolf, regular aliens for a change, horrifying organ-stealing puppet robots, Cybermen, soul-and-face-stealing TV program, THE DEVIL HIMSELF IN ALL HIS HORNED RED GLORY, gleeble glorb the fat Absorbing Man, scary kid's drawings, and Daleks and Cybermen - at once

Truly peak Doctor Who. What the hell

[sygzie]

once again the satan pit is wild bc they hear the actual devil tell them with confidence that rose is going to die in battle which is quite honestly something they could have seen coming for a while now but the doctor looks her in the eyes and is like No you won’t because i love you and she's like You're right because i love you. ????? what are they doing they need to be locked up

[bnxxshthealien]

y’all. babes. whovians. sweeties.

is sutekh satan? yknow from that time when doctor who met actual satan

because both of them:

are voiced by gabriel woolf

can possess people

actually that’s the entire list of similarities but if i had a nickel for each similarity it would be close enough to a doofenshmirtz quote to sound significant probably

oh also isn’t Sutekh Egyptian mythology’s version of Satan? Idk enough about mythology to say. but the Satan Pit made it very clear that it wasn’t the satan of any specific religion, soooooo maybe the same guy?

[billpottsismygf]

Okay, so Carla calling Sutekh the Beast before he'd even fully manifested - and Colonel Chidozie saying he was in hell - already had me thinking about The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, but I just looked up the voice actor for Sutekh. Sutekh is voiced by Gabriel Woolf, who played Sutekh in the 70s as well.

Another role Gabriel Woolf has had in the Whoniverse was in 2006, as the Beast in The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. I'm not saying they're the same being, but… what if they were the same being?

[imparrot]

Ever think about how a song completely mirrors a show or movie or episode?

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Watching The Legend of Ruby Sunday with my mum was such a cool experience. I was losing my mind because I thought it was going to be The Beast from The Satan Pit (2006), then mum was losing her mind because it was revealed to be Sutekh from Pyramids of Mars (1975). We were both right! It was the monster from both our childhoods. Even voiced all 3 times by Gabriel Woolf. Multi-generational Doctor Who shooketh moment!

[tinkerbitch69]

As the worlds number 1 impossible planet/satan pit enjoyer, I got very excited when The Beast got name dropped by rubys mum and Harriet started chanting like Toby only to have my hopes dashed by the final reveal >:’(

Like don’t get me wrong, yayyyyyy Sutekh! But RTD you bastard man, you gave me hope! I want to the see doctor who fist fight the devil ON LIVE TELEVISION!

[littldoctor]

Doctor who - S2E9 - The Satan pit

Bonus:

Rose asking for him, just as he lets go

[gcballet]

Doctor Who S2 (2006) as Penguin Classics

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